So i just read an artical, and saw alll the negitive responses, about a particular cammy drawing. You can check it out for youself. But basically they were over critisizing a beautiful drawing. It was the first time I chimed in. But i Thought i'd share this with you as well, since deviantart is where the true art community lives.
Little description of what i talk about. I talk about the "hater-ade" culture i experienced in ART SCHOOL. Discrimination towards ANIME! And BASHING ON OTHER PEOPLE! This includes TEACHERS WHO HATED on students. And let me put a disclaimer out there because I didnt mention it, 80% of the ART TEACHERS(not talking about the liberalarts teachers, pyschology, math, english etc.) were absolutely amazing, and I love them. 5% were so so. ANd the 15% or so left were of the hating decent.
(again, this is response to a post I saw at kotaku, Heres a link to the Picture and discussion [link]
And heres a link to his deviant art page. [link]
Okay as a classically trained, video game, animation, comic book, concept artist/animator, i can reassure you that this guy understands his anatomy VERY well. Let's get this straightened out, it's called entertainment. Technically any stylized drawing is anatomically "incorrect" but we don't criticize all the turns twists etc because THAT isn't the focus of the work. The most important rule, IN MY OPINION is wether it is believable. Wether it's sponge bob or cammy from street fighter, as long as it is believable, everything else is fair game. Let's define believable, in Sponge bob, the proportions, and the wiggles all have to remain consistent There has to be a sense of gravity and is it appealing. ANd We believe the forms he uses to exist works. In an illustration like Cammy, are the muscles and bones hitting the landmarks? Do they all make sense? Like is that shoulder muscle? Is that an elbow? yes, are proportions consistent? yes, is there foreshortening and a sense 3d space? Yes, and do color harmonize? yes, is there a good sense value/ lighting scheme, oi... yes. In my oppinion, the piece is well above average.
All the anime manga knockers, fail to see/in denial of the what the video game/animation industries largely consist of. EASTERN INFLUENCE. It's what is selling right now, largely because it is very appealing, and if you are knocking on it, you my friend are the minority. Grumpy old-school hater who probably exclusively cares for only classic western comic book styled work, or probably into dark emo macabre horror, because of deep psychological social issues. You HATE to see happy, colorful, pretty, popular things. YOU LOVE to bash on this stuff, because of your own shortcomings/convictions. You just HAVE to be an original right? Other reasons why people are bashing this drawing is either because they are jealous know-it-alls, trolling, or do not understand the human anatomy at all. SO just continue with your favorite collectors edition gas mask on, breath deep and beat off to your dark inverted ass world! while the rest of us continue to move forward and progress in life. Cause while YOU'RE hating, you are missing out on a lot of things. Which is fine, more for us. O and let me clear things up. This piece is not at ALLLLL manga or anime!WOW! Shocker right? This is a pretty girl(cammy) illustration. Get that straight. Often, as soon as they see a, petite, pretty girl with big eyes, small facial features, they equate that to manga/ anime...Look haters, If you want realism, why not try to look at a jcpenny catalog. Im sure their characters will have everything lined up just right ^__~.
This is my first post ever, but why does this strike a chord with me? First off, i went art school. And there was a lot of haterade. And there was a great stigma towards manga and anime styled work going on, entering school around 2007, people had to hide away in a dark room and enjoy their mangas. They were made fun of. There were teachers who literally LAUGHED at you for drawing this way. THey wanted to beat it out of you(not all, there was a few, who i believe can do more damage then all the good teachers combined because they were looking to change you, many times belittle you, teachers? WHAT? yes) Yeah big shout out to AAU! People had to force themselves away from the controversial anime stuff, even though it meant changing their passion and leaving them frustrated, worst of all, they begain to believe what others were telling them and forgetting what drove them to study art in the first place(I use to draw a lot dbz, i aint gonna lie hhehe). They took the brunt of critiszim by the so called "popular" people. The guys who beat off to ultra realistic, sci fi macabre horror, and gas masks, or the guys who can't draw anything but dc marvel superheroes! HAHAH Not that there is anything wrong with that genre at all. I love me some of that stuff as well. But it's the elitist nature of it. If you don't draw the things WE do, you are an outcast. Later around 2010 and on, there was a great shift. The air began to clear, and the loving light beamed through the dark fog of hate, the people began to speak up joined together as a community, continued to do what they loved and what they believed in, and now it has been more socially acceptable to be who you are. Largely do to the great talent coming from eastern video concept artist. Classically trained, but incorporating there influence in manga and eastern art, and their work POPPED. It began to change the opinion of many. They were good. They showed, hey it's possible to stay true to who you are and still be a respectful artist!
What I stress is equality. Art is art. Street fucken art, cartoon network art. Western Comic books or eastern comic book art. It doesnt matter WHAT you draw, it's HOW you draw it. If you do it good, it will sell. No one has the right to impose their beliefs on to you, what should and what shouldn't. That's their bag and good for them. If they don't listen, they can just fuck off. No one should be judged based on what or how a person draws. If you are guilty, you have no right to lower anyone's self esteem because of your own convictions or beliefs. If you were a loner artist in highschool, and got prestige in your college just cause of your art, you are merely riding the fame through your ability to draw, not because of your innate character or personality. Those of you who are guilty of this(hating on others because of your talent) let me remind you, you are still lacking inside, and all you are doing is masking a dysfunctional self with superficial talent. Get your shit right. I've too often met people who really really socially backwards(ass wholes) yet they are worshipped as if they were gods. BECAUSE THEY DRAW? Anyway i digress.
This hits home for me because i saw it for my own eyes, and I am one of those who stuck to my guns, always remembered my roots, continued to draw what i love, and encourage everyone else, especially those who were victims of this crime. And yeah, i remember IDIOTS like you, the ones on this discussion(kotaku post) Bashing on the littlest details and forgetting about the over-all picture. Lets remember one thing. This Cammy piece is the one getting all the fame and attention,NOT YOU! Lastly, if you're willing to bash on the photo, let me see you draw something like this. Put your money where your mouth is. Do I have the work to back MY claims? Check me out at deviantart it's Jeteffects. My name is Jet, and i Approve of this message.
Love Peaces and Cream,
UPdate: If your into Macabre horror, then GREAT! My point was, people who feel the need to criticize or belittle other people, probably have some other pychological issues. Wether it they are into blood thirsty Macabre horror or even snuff is besides the point. You know, the real reason why i used that as my example was because of some little demon troll decided to message me an ambiguous rude message. SO i'm not talking out of my ass. THIS HAPPENED. Much love to the gore and horror folks. It just happened to be this was what this guy was into. I was confused as hell. He randomly messaged me like a little troll. Heres the link. AND O, it was on the topic on ANIME! So just scroll to the bottom. And guys, please be nice, he never responded after i told him to stop. I blocked one of his messages, but he was basically playing stupid to egg me on when asked, what he wanted. [link]
New update:Im sorry, I just realized, there is also a big controversy about how sexualized she is and i didn't adress. Cause i understand there maybe a younger audience want you undertand where i am coming from in that subject. Ive drawn THOUSANDS of figures, in school, outa school, sexy not sexy. When comes to a piece like this first and foremost, my interest is primarily into the level of work that was put into it. After all these years of painting figures, I look way beyond this, forget that it was sexy at all. I mean, we had art shows at school with old folks, important people, young people, looking at some really nude pictures all the time. But since someone paints it, it becomes more about the work that is put into to it. Even my mom, who by the way is an artist critiques works like this all the time. So yeah, what do i think about the sexualization aka exploitation of women in art? Well, simply put, the human anatomy in my opinion, especially the female anatomy is in itself works of art. WHich brings me back to my other point, if you are gonna doit, make sure you put your whole heart into it, do it well!
update: I have NOOOO problem whatsoever with learning realism. I LOVE IT! hahah WHen i talk about hate, i mean down right disrespecting another person's style. Painting figures, drawing anatomy, life study, BRING IT ON!